Why is the 2020 CR-V Hybrid’s Fuel Economy Lower Than the RAV4 Hybrid?
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March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125104
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There are clearly many variables at play here but here’s a quick video exploring the three main reasons in my opinion. Join Today: bit.ly/2WdCEwW The Best …March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125105Jaxx Brat
The drive system in the Rav is better..less waste..One of the great advantages of a hybrid is the separation of front and rear drive systems…
No info on the regen?March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125106Craig Merkey
great info… it is very interesting how manufacturers keep making specific vehicles bigger and bigger… maybe they are relying on brand loyalty…
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125107DAVID H
Ummm…cause Toyota has kind of perfected the tech?
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125108Kevin Oberg
I've test driven all 3 of the RAV4, CR-V, and Escape. The Escape gave me 50+ mpg on eco driving which totally spanked the other two, and I honestly felt the interior was much nicer (despite "hard plastics', it is otherwise functionally much better to my eye)
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125109El Cartu P
Lower fuel consumption than Rav4? Come on man, neither in your best dreams. Eso es un caldero.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125110James Miller
Americans worried over 3mpg difference when their fuel is almost half the cost it is in Europe
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125111Mr M M
No excuses please Toyota is the leaders for hybrids Honda is ok but Toyota is the best
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125112David Gerstl
If the new RAV4 PHEV sells well, I wonder if Honda will come out with a Clarity-based version of this (basically the same setup with a larger battery, possibly smaller gas engine, a plug, and probably ~35-40 miles EV range).
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125113Edward Reyez
Why? CVT!
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125114Russell C
Give me wider tires and an actual drive line any day. Sorry Toyota.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125115Dennis W
Toyota has been on the top of building hybrids for years. They seem to have the best system. What did I miss Alex? Are you saying narrower tires get better mileage than wider ones? More wind drag with the wider tires?
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125116Brandan honda
2 to 3 MPG less, is not a big deal.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125117FSAPO
So lower fuel economy, definitely going to have lower reliability, worse styling, outdated interior vs the RAV4 Hybrid. Big misstep from Honda.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125118hikersid
I drove both of these as well as the Ford Escape hybrid. They all have + and – aspects. I liked the Escape better overall and have had it now for a little over a week. First I'll say the top of the line model was less expensive out the door than both of these and on my first tank of gas I got 41.5 MPG (515 miles 12.4 gals. to fill) under 27$s to fill the tank. I'm very happy so far.
I know I took a chance with this, its my first Ford in 50+ years of driving. Fingers crossed as to the reliability of the Escape , time will tell. I know both Honda and Toyota have had there issues lately as well.March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125119MJ Lyco
Also the gas tank will probably fill all the way
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125120Bryan Robles
As always, great analysis! However, can you address in a future segment the real fly in the ointment regarding the RAV4 Hybrid? Its gasoline tank is reportedly only accepting about 10 gallons of fuel (from empty) against its rated 14.5 fuel tank capacity. This is a flaw found in both its 2019/2020 model years. Any mpg advantage the RAV4 Hybrid has over the CR-V Hybrid is moot until this ongoing issue is resolved.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125121Turbo
useless video, no one emailing him , we can google this info
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125122overboost7667
I waited for the 'awful' measurement unit and was not disappointed. Good explanation.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125123Mallory Ko
Thank you I saw others reviews did not explain why and just go with Toyota has better fuel economy.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125124Jamaican Me Crazy
CR-V looks better than the RAV4 in my opinion
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125125Maz Al-Samadi
The CRV is a great looking SUV. All the proportions are perfect.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125126Dominic Fong
That front fascia looks like as if someone with missing front teeth.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125127digitaldoc100
Doubt that small difference in width of the tire is making the big difference here. The true AWD vs e-AWD is going to make a much bigger difference. Also, need to see the difference in weight, and performance.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125128Joy Chung
After the website spec. CR-V Hybrid is lighter in Curb Weight, fuel tank is 0.5Gallon less than RAV4 and MPG is lower than RAV4. I still trying to understand the spec.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125129Phuong Vo
I put 235/65/17 all terrain tires on my 19 Rav4 hybrid and i went from 41mpg avg to 38.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #1251302big 2fail
lease the Honda and but the Toyota…cvt transmission in the Honda is no where near as reliable as the Toyota's …too bad really because the Honda motor is every bit as good if not better than the Toyota
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125131Daniel Cheng
The infotainment system in the CRV is awful. Can't believe they didn't put in what you get in the Accord
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125132Anton Emmanuel
Front Grill design is still not impressed like RAV4 Honda has to work on that
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125133Waldemar Ishibashi
Alex: can you please show us if there is a front towing eyelet in the new CR-V. I hope they didn't make the same mistake as Ontario-made RAV4 "adventure" 🙂
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125134Waldemar Ishibashi
CR-V is a confusing package for me.
Pros: very comfortable for short drivers, usable interior, big trunk, decent ground clearance.
Cons: strange looks, no AWD settings, medium visibility for short drivers.I do like it and it is on the list when times comes.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125135Walter Sovchack
I bet your wife is never unsatisfied ; )
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125136Ro0ster
RAV4 Hybrid battery is covered for 10 years 150k miles vs 8 years 100k miles for the CR-V Hybrid.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125137martin martin
Just can't beleive the truckish ugly looking rav4 get better Cd than the CR-V, please give us each cd #
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125138Dungsta
Everything on the CRV is be better than the RAV4… So how do you explain getting the RAV4 for your long term vehicle?! 🤷♂️
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125139mountainhobo
Toyota's planetary gearset transmission is very reliable. What about Honda's?
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125140Joseph G
Can it tow?
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125141Ken Howard
When fuel economy numbers are this high (for either vehicle), a difference of 2 or 3 mpg – in terms of extra dollars spent yearly for most owners – the difference is negligible.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125142Srini Nayudu
Alex, I am puzzled by your theory you keep repeating for some reason having two different power sources to the front and rear is inferior despite the reality is other way around. Lets come to real world, when do you get stuck? only when you have no traction. Is that right? Not because of lack of power? is that right? In the case of mechanical AWD, you have one additional center differential, means any one of the 4 wheels slip, you lose traction for all 3 wheels because the way Differential functions. So if one front wheel lose traction because of slippery surface/ice, it will keep rotating without transferring much torque to other wheels, unless the car has some sort of limited slip differential. To come close to capability of two power source drive train, mechanical AWD atleast need to have center limited slip differential or at least lockable center differential. None of the brake vectoring torque transfer can smoothly transfer full power to single wheel. In case of of individual power sources, system can cut off power to slipping axle and give full torque to axle with most grip. Same thing goes for the case of "on the fly" as it can rotate the axles at different speeds to keep the car in the intended path without need to use much of braking(to control understeer/oversteer). Using braking is never going to be as smooth as individually controllable axle speeds. The fundamental problem is traction to wheels, not the power. That's the reason a mechanical AWD can never match fineness and capability of properly designed dual power source system. BTW, its not about Toyota vs Honda. I don't care which uses which system. My point is to highlight technically incorrect explanation you have been giving on many reviews in recent memory which involves this kind dual power source drives. Please let me know if you have evidence or explanation which proves otherwise.
March 15, 2020 at 9:35 am #125143whyallthefuss100
For meager three MPG penalty, I’ll take the Honda over Toyota any day.
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